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From the forests of Finland

  • Apr. 27th, 2008 at 4:12 PM
right...", Chris - "Let me tell you this

When I was little, my mother would read me a bed-time story. A lot of them were the normal tales British kids get told, like King Arthur and the Lady of the Lake, others left a much bigger impression on me. My mother used to tell me a story about a forest sprite, that in my head looked like a cross between a garden gnome and the goblin from the Sprite adverts, who used to go around the forest collecting mushrooms and toadstools. Every morning when the sun began to shine, its rays would shine through the gaps in the trees, illuminating small pollen fragments that hung lazily on the scented air. No sound but for the ethereal strumming of tree leaves in the light breeze, and the occasional melodic fragment from a song bird, and the sound of dew as it ran off the rocks and collected into a little stream. The golden light that moved behind the tree trunks getting ever higher until the light shone down on the sleeping forest sprite. The sprite would go about his daily activities, and then, from his hole halfway up the biggest tree in the forest, he would lie on his front, with his head in his hands, and watch the snowflakes fall and land silently, packing together like cotton wool, and shining with some celestial glistening that didn't seem to fade. Each flake fell, and the more they fell, the more they each sounded like a little bell.

I know it doesn't make sense, having snow and sun in the same season, but as I child I was enthralled. My mothers descriptions were always so vivid, I couldn't help being transported there. We had a TV show called The Animals of Farthing Wood when I was a kid, and these stories, alongside those of my mother seemed to root me into a forest fascination. Whenever I saw the show, or was in bed listening to my mums stories, for some reason I always pictured them as being in Sweden, or more than likely Finland - the image in my mind of some untouched Finnish forest (or an urskogen, Siiri!) in the summer, sunshine, activity etc. So when Matt asked me why, out of all the places on Earth I want to go to Finland. I tried to explain this to him, but he got bored of listening and looked at cars for sale on the internet. It must be hard for Matt to understand because his idea of a good holiday, is one where he gets a tan and does nothing. I'm all for going away to relax, but I would go out of my mind if I didn't have new locals to meet, a couple of phrases of a new language to learn (although, knowing me, I would probably try to learn it!), new sights to see etc. 

Anyway, I speak of all this, because I stumbled upon Moomins on YouTube the other day. Not the Japanese cartoon, the actual Finnish/Swedish puppet one, that Tove herself was a central figure for. The sight of Little My warmed my heart again, as Moomins was quintessentially my youth. However, the particular episode I watched - The Lady of the Cold - only hastened my opinion that Scandinavians have messed up ideas about a lot of things. Watch it yourself if you have time, its only five minutes long, but I found it quite disturbing now, and I'm 20. Fuck knows what it must have done to younger kids. Although, I remember that purple monster thing in the anime version giving me nightmares for literally years. 

I wanted to post about my favourite books, and how I wish it was summer, so I could go sit in field and read Latin poems about summer, where women are compared to juicy apples, the the main joy is in the food. Then eating bread and cheese and drinking wine by moonlight. And also about cute boys on British TV,  but I've gone on long enough, too many pictures is distracting, and Matt will be here soon. I'll probably end up editing this, because I'm buzzing off coke right now, and this whole post has been pointless. As if you all want to know what my boyfriend and I think of our country.

Matt and I had a very long talk today about The Queen, Matt being a royalist and all, and me being against The Queen as a position, rather than anything against the woman herself. But Matt got me thinking. Our national anthem is just totally dull, torpid, and lifeless. Why can't we have something actually stirring and furiously patriotic like the Turkish İstiklâl Marşı (The Indipendence March), who opens with a tremendous brass fanfare, and begins with the verse:

 

Korkma, sönmez bu şafaklarda yüzen al sancak; Sönmeden yurdumun üstünde tüten en son ocak. O benim milletimin yıldızıdır, parlayacak; O benimdir, o benim milletimindir ancak. Fear not! For the red flag that proudly ripples in this glorious twilight, shall never fade, Before the last fiery hearth that is ablaze within my nation is extinguished. For That is the star of my nation, and it will forever shine; It is mine; and solely belongs to my valiant nation.


I find it so utterly heart-wrenching to see such valiant patriotism. When I was in Turkey, all I saw anywhere were Turkish flags flying. Here at home, I only see one flag per town flying on the town hall. It annoys Matt that people don't want to be patriotic; but I can't blame them - What do they have to be patriotic about? A small little island cought between the Atlantic and the North Sea, with one of the highest crime rates, death rates, child birth rates and poverty rates in the EU. Anyway, as I said, Matt sparked converstion, and although The Queen's position as ruler and monarch is now defunct (she still has a lot to do, and a lot of responsibilities such as opening Parliament and stuff), and the countless horrors and atrocities my country has done in the past *cough* the slave trade *cough*, I suddenly had a great surge of pride when I saw this.

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You tell me it isn't stunning, and fantastic to look at. Because at college I did chemistry, biology, physics and french, and University I do chemistry and hebrew, I haven't really delved intro British history since ninth grade. But seeing the coat of arms brought it all back to me: Richard Lionheart, King Arthur, The Age of Chivalry, the days where we owned most of France, the fact being we were the worlds most powerful country for a long time. Although England has so much to be ashamed of, and is in a pretty big mess right now, we rule. We rule so fucking hard. 

Comments

[info]james0289 wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 05:23 pm (UTC)
Ya-huh. *nods*

Shame about the national anthem though; I agree with you. Talk about miserable! I want something lively like the Italian national anthem, or linguistically interesting (for me, of course) like the Welsh one (it even mentions the language in that one: o bydded yr heniaith barhau, off the top of my head: "May the ancient language endure").

I suppose I share both of your points of view - I'm proud to be both British and English, but not so much that I want to have a flag on every building and stand up whenever the Queen is mentioned. Whenever I try to feel faintly patriotic, I am instantly reminded of two things: 1) all the problems you mentioned above, like the crime rates, pregnancy rate, obesity rate, etc., and 2) Americans, due to their (stereotypical!) fanatical allegiance-swearing to all things blue, red and star-speckled.
And it makes me snap out of it pretty quickly! :D

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who edits his posts loads after making them; I can't help but do that. If I see a spelling mistake I get really neurotic about it and have to correct it!

"Buzzing off coke"? There was a time once where I wouldn't have had to ask you to clarify, because I'd instantly have understood that to be Coca Cola... but... what? :D
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 05:31 pm (UTC)
Are you surreptitiously calling me a coke (-aine) fiend?
And I totally get what you mean about the Americans - no offence to any who read this.

I like the Brazilian national anthem, you can dance to it.

Right now I'm trying to indent the Istiklal Marsi lyrics, but it keeps fucking up my entire post, so I might have to leave it :(
[info]james0289 wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 07:08 pm (UTC)
Are you trying to edit the HTML?

Indents are done by the word 'blockquote' in angle-brackets (a tag which you then have to close again afterwards, to stop it from indenting the rest of your post).

And I'm not calling you anything; I'm just hearkening back to the days when "coke" (which I nearly misspelt as "cock"... *blush*) meant simply "Coca Cola" and not "cocaine".
:D

I always used to be read poems when I was little, when my mum was putting me to bed. I'll try to find a couple of my favourites when I can be bothered.
I also used to be read stores like "The Big Red Barn", "Good-night, Owl", "Amazing Anthony Ant", "The Jolly Postman" and "The Happy Hedgehog Band". I miss those days! When I was old enough myself I used to read things like Roald Dahl books or "Charlotte's Web" or "The Wind in the Willows".
She used to tell me silly things that her mother, father and aunt used to tell her when they were putting her and her sister to bed too... like "Down in the forest, something stirred: a dog stirred" (say it quickly and the last bit sounds like "a dog's turd"!) and the slightly ruder:

I chased a bug
Around a tree.
I'll have his blood -
He knows I will!


...which, when said quickly, sounds like:

I chased a bugger 'round a tree;
I'll have his bloody nose I will!
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC)
I tried using blockquote, but for some reason, it was indenting what I wanted to, but it repeatedly changed the order of my paragraphs. I gave up.

It is obvious you have something on your mind... ;-)

I remember The Jolly Postman poem, but I couldn't recite it to you. Do you remember Roger Red Hat and Friends when we were learning to read?

And James, I'm northern. That quoted poem is hardly rude to my ears. Incidentally, I apologise if I swear too much. *blush*
[info]james0289 wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:28 pm (UTC)
And because I'm from the Midlands it's not quite as rude to my ears (or eyes) either -- if I were from Kent, though, it'd be a completely different story....!

Roger Red Hat? Nope, can't say that I do remember him...
I do remember the Oxford Reading Tree, however, with Biff, Chip and Kipper! :D

Something on my mind? What are you insinuating, young man??
:P
[info]xtension_sparkx wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
Yay, go us! *high-fives*

uh-oh.. used an icon of a Frenchman ;DD
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:17 pm (UTC)
These things happen lmfao.
*high-fives back*
Think of it as a tribute to the days where we owned a large part of France! :)
[info]arestoktra wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 05:48 pm (UTC)
I love England's old times, especially the The Age of Chivalry. These times are the base of many fictional books, although I would prefer living today. :D

I've never seen any nation who due to respect stands still when s/he hears the national anthem other than Turks. I don't include Americans to this list also as I really don't understand their nationalism. It's different than European ones I think. :P
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
May. 2nd, 2008 10:38 am (UTC)
I think you Turks have it right when it comes to national pride. You love your country, and Atatürk (who is one of my heroes!), and your anthem.

When I was in Turkey, I wished I was living there, but I remembered: Bülbülü altın kafese koymuşlar, ah vatanım demiş :)
[info]sfuggire wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 06:16 pm (UTC)
Did your mom really tell the stories like that? That's powerful stuff, that is. I wish my mom had told me stories like that. Although I do remember now, how my mom used to hug me close to her and sing me songs when I was little. They weren't anything special in way of songs, but the love was there. I don't give her enough credit at times. Sigh...

As for your national anthem, well, it's been six years since I've heard it, but I remember liking it more than ours... All it talks about is our flag. And war. Because it was written during a way, by a guy looking at the flag. It's poetic, but not riveting. Other countries have it so good sometimes.

And I'm sorry your boyfriend got bored with the story. I enjoyed it, for what it's worth. Deep, meaningful rambling is my favourite. ^_^
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:35 pm (UTC)
Aye, she did. My mum was a fantastic story teller. My grandma was equally as good, but hers were traditional boys stories in the same vain as Indiana Jones and things like that.

I fall asleep during our current national anthem. If it were Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem, then I would be happy. :)
[info]sfuggire wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 04:34 pm (UTC)
Those are both lovely songs. The first one is to the tune of Pomp and Circumstance, which is traditionally played at American high school graduations as the graduates make the procession in. I'd never heard words put to it before this.

I remember your anthem now!! (I just youtubed it.) We yanks stole the tune for America the Beautiful. Which is terribly boring. I still maintain that mine is worse, though. :p
[info]sfuggire wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 04:39 pm (UTC)
Our Country 'tis of Thee, rather. Not America the Beautiful.
[info]_sundaymonday_ wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 07:37 pm (UTC)
I think you have a lot of things to be proud of, for example music. I love British rock music!
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
Do you really? British dance music is better! :)
[info]_sundaymonday_ wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 08:41 pm (UTC)
It's British, therefore it's bound to be good :D
[info]manicheenne wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 07:56 pm (UTC)
Hmmm.
I have taken into account that some Finns REALLY love & adore their country. I mean, they do it too much.
For example, my principal... During the whole high shcool times, he kind of tried to brainwash us with his patriotics speeches. It was quite annoying because I think everyone has right to think with his/her own brain...
I also respect my country and I'm proud of our independence, but I don't ADORE Finland and Finnishness.
This is just one country among the others, though good one ! ;)
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:38 pm (UTC)
I agree with you. I love my country, even if sometimes I say that I do not. However, I would never say my country is better than anyone elses. We are just a little island, what right do we have to say we are better?

Our countries are very good though ;-)
[info]rethought wrote:
Apr. 27th, 2008 09:28 pm (UTC)
Heraldry is pretty inspiring. There's so much to learn about it. I love the symbolism behind the various elements.

I honestly have a hard time with the UK national anthem.
Mostly because I start singing 'My Country 'Tis of Thee' by mistake most times. :)
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:41 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was reading into it the other day, and I never realised how much there is to it. For instance, the British Lion can have 13 different stances, and they all mean different things. The lion on the charge in my post is in a stance called rampant... I'm not sure of the significance. I'll look into it deeper some day.

And I'm sorry, but when you said 'My Country 'tis of Thee', all I could think of was the South Park episode with the recorder concert.
[info]taciturnsilence wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 05:50 am (UTC)
Aww.. it's good that you feel that way about your country ~ England is pretty awesome :D And English accents are so pretty <3 Haha ~ I'm proud of being Canadian for the fact that I live in a peaceful, multicultural country.. but other than that it's pretty boring :'D I just have to comment on your writing though ~ its very beautiful! Do you write stories/poems? You have such a talent for description.. that entry made me want to sit in a field and read poetry :'DDD
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:49 pm (UTC)
Really? Wow, I'm flattered. I just did my best to get the image in my head into words. Hopefully you saw the same thing I did. I've never written much before, a couple of poems. If I can find them I might post them in my next entry. I didn't like them though. They just seemed to be aimless imagery.

Haha, RP sounds pretty, if you listen to british dialects they are not so much. My accent sounds like thiswhich I don't think is very pretty.

Canada is pretty cool. Why does America take the piss out of you so much? I'd rather be Canadian than American.
[info]taciturnsilence wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 07:18 am (UTC)
Hahaa I'd rather be Canadian too ~ apparantly the whole world likes us :'D Take the piss out of us? Ahh.. sorry is that a British expression? lol *is confused* But ~ I think *that* accent is pretty too.. really, I think those other dialects sound a lot more interesting than RP does ;P Ahh.. I have a Psychology exam tommorrow.. and I should go back and study but I just want to fast-forward to 12pm so I can write the damn thing lol :'D
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 29th, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
Haha, it meant "why do the americans make fun of you?".

You like the Mancunian accent, you freak! lol, theres a stereotype in England that the accent makes you soun stupid!

How did your exam go anyway?
[info]taciturnsilence wrote:
Apr. 30th, 2008 07:45 am (UTC)
Haha, I don't know..! They say that we live in igloos, and talk funny, and stuff.. haha, well, it's all in good fun I guess.. I make fun of Canada too :'D LOL Ahhh, well, I like it anyway! ;P It's.. interesing lol... ;D My exam went excruciatingly looong.. 3 hours of Psychology multiple choice questions.. I thought it would never end D:
[info]tricours wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 07:30 am (UTC)
"I know it doesn't make sense, having snow and sun in the same season"

What? That's the whole point of winter! Snow, light, sun! (Except for the dark hours, of course.)
[info]gamma_romeo wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 03:48 pm (UTC)
Lol. In the UK, we have no sun apart from one week in August, so it doesn't make sense to me to have sun and snow together :)
[info]hungzberg wrote:
Apr. 28th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
it sounds cool-- about the flag and feeling pride.
it moves me a little bit. I like how your flag looks...probably because I'm into historical reconstruction and I've being reading staff like "Celtic legends", or "Legends of Medieval Wales"(in Russian translation)since my teens. It is really hard to explain what the name "King Arthur" means to me. I can only say that it means a lot to me...
I am not English,and I almost have no idea what it is England like now but may be I have a right to say that your country has a really great history. So many of my friends are into making English "medieval" costumes, armor, weapon), your legends are still driving people mad all over the world.....and(main) long English Bow is the best bow in the world that ever exists!

please do not be scared with my grammar mistakes))))))))))))